Podcast: “I’m Looking for Systemic, Permanent Change Right Now”
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Social Impact Leadership Jun 16, 2020

Podcast: “I’m Looking for Systemic, Permanent Change Right Now”

Anti-Black racism is deeply embedded in corporate culture. On this special episode of The Insightful Leader, Professor Nicholas Pearce and Google’s Ginny Clarke discuss the moral responsibility of leaders to finally address that.

Business leaders are being asked to take bold action to dismantle anti-black racism in America.
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Nicholas Pearce

Ginny Clarke

Listening: “I’m Looking For Systemic, Permanent Change Right Now”
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What will it take to remove entrenched obstacles to diversity and equity in the corporate world?

On this special episode of The Insightful Leader, we feature a conversation between Nicholas Pearce, a pastor, consultant, and clinical professor at Kellogg, and Virginia “Ginny” Clarke, the head of leadership staffing at Google and an expert on diversity recruitment. They share their own experiences with systemic anti-Black racism, and discuss the specific actions that business leaders can take to work towards racial justice in their companies.

Note: The Insightful Leader is produced for the ear, and not meant to be read as a transcript. We encourage you to listen to the audio version above. However, a transcript of this episode is available here.

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